After working two weeks in a nursing home, I told my wife to pull the plug if I ever end up in a wheel chair staring at the ceiling. Not for me, but for her. The problem is when the decision is left to someone else. The farther from the patient the more dangerous.
Mad Dawg
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Right to Die Issue Terminally Ill, Hopelessly Paralized, Etc..What Are Your Thoughts?
by frankiespeakin infirst off let me say this is not about me, i'm happy and healthy.
it really about all the suffering i see people going thru.
examples in my family over the years have caused me to think very seriously this.. i could give you a couple of examples and i'm sure some of our posters can tell other horror stories they'd witnessed where perhaps it would have been much better for them and their family if they could have passed away painlessly and with much more dignity.. one of my sisters developed breast cancer and died after about a 12month struggle, we saw her waste away to just skin and bones, it was hard on me as well as her two young children and husband.
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Don't ya just love people who want to force everyone else into their vision of society?
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"Voluntary eugenics", ha ha, that is a good one.
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15 years ago (or so) Algore predicted that we only have 10 years left if we did anything less than everything he said we should do. Well, we are still here.
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If God Truly Cared About People Wouldn't He DO SOMETHING By Now?
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IF GOD WERE A LOVING GOD, WHY DOES HE DO NOTHING ABOUT MY INGROWN TOENAIL!!!!
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I didn't say I wrote papers for publication, I said I did research.
Actually, you said that you did “scholarly research.” One would presume that this would include a written document of some type.
You are attempting to belittle me and insinuating that any research I might have done is "not scholarly enough" to matter.
Let me state it plainly, you would not have been “belittled” if you hadn’t inflated the nature of your research. You claimed to have done “scholarly research” then resort to whining about “big words.”
You made yourself an easy target.
I got a lot of the materials at the university libraries in Nashville Tennessee. Vanderbilt library was particularly useful. Feel free to go there and start reading.
Don’t need to, we have fine libraries here in New York. I have access to the best libraries in the world.
I did not claim to BE anything.
Semantics. If I claimed to have performed surgery, am I not claiming to be a surgeon? I suppose not if my “surgery” was removing a sliver from my thumb. You implied that you were a scholarly researcher and failed to clarify it. Your problem, not mine.
Just that your reading did not include anyone qualified to comment on theology
And you obtained the list of materials that I studied where?
I didn’t have to obtain the list to know that you didn’t know what you were talking about.
I still haven't seen anyt posts from any of the religionists that even attempted to address Minimus question.
Open your eyes.
Most of the posts in this thread are attacks on me because I posted an example that would focus the discussion on Minimus' question.
So now you are a martyr? Is it more loving to point out your ignorance or to leave you in ignorance?
Now this MD character is saying that I'm not qualified to post an example because I am not a theologan.
You can post any example you want, stop crying because you were unable to defend it – be a big boy.
Your example of gravity is nonsense. Gravity has no will to decide anything. You are clueless regarding theology – you asked.
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Void said:
By that token, we must admit we know nothing whatever of God, whether he has the notion (let alone any ability) to act, has what we would consider a personality, or any desires at all. By definition, a transcendent God would be utterly alien to us, impossible to fathom, impossible to beseech.
You are very close. The only solution would be if He revealed Himself to us.
Why would a transcendent God care at all?
A very astute question. That is the miracle of God – that He loves us. Life is more good than bad, even in the case of blind children. It can always be worse. It is a paradox that people want God to stay out of their lives, then complain when He does.
Min, I agree that the discussion of Attenborough is immaterial. I was pointing out the ignorance of one who claimed to have done “scholarly research”. His research was so thorough that he didn’t know he was parroting Sir David. There are, of course, no qualifications, to post comments on a subject on this board. But, when one has no clue what they are talking about, I will point it out.
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Ok, now “Happy” is complaining that I am using big words. I will try to use small words for him. The words do mean something. If you were such a “scholarly” person as you claim you would understand what is meant. BTW, I know you read slow, so I am typing slow for you. Maybe you believe you have done research, but looking for the latest Britany Spears video on Youtube is not real research.
“Happy” said:
I did not categorically state that God is doing nothing for every example that could be given.
Who said you did? Where did they say you said that?
What I did say is that in the example of the river blindness disease, a problem which God directly caused (if you believe in creation) God has done nothing.
And it has been repeatedly (this means over and over again, sorry for the big word) stated that God allows these things to happen for a higher reason.
The religionists claim to know god, I am asking them for what the reasons might be.
You claim to know what a loving God would or wouldn’t do, please explain what He is going to do with you when you die.
To be frank Matt, most of what you say is complete jibberish, you string together complex sounding ideas to impress.
If you had anything resembling a good foundation in theology, nothing I write would be complex sounding or impressive. I hope these words aren’t too big for you.
This kind of 'we can't understand anything" philosophizing is a complete waste of time and shows that your agenda is to impress with big words but not to actually discuss the issue that has been posed.
Who said, “we can't understand anything"? You have saying that if we don’t understand something then the person who allows, or performs it, must be malevolent (click on the link if you don’t understand the word). That would mean that my dog would correctly consider me malevolent for having him castrated (means his nuts were cut off). His understanding, or lack of understanding, of my reason has no bearing on my reasons for my actions – or perceived lack thereof.
My hobby is reading textbooks on various subjects. I am sorry for using such big words. If you need help with a word or phrase, just ask. I am happy to help. Or just look it up, dictionary.com is your friend.
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“Happy” Guy said:
No, I have not read anything of Attenborough.
This is obvious. Google is your friend.
I am not relying on his argument.
Your ignorance of the source of your argument does not negate the source of said argument.
I used the river blindness example because it is simple, there is no way you can blame man, it is not due to the "evil" of the victims, it does not involve the sovereignty issue, and it could easily be rectified if God chose to do so.
All true and all answered. How do you know what a loving God would do? If you are so sure what a loving God is supposed to do, then what should He do with you when you die? You are the one who claims:
v To know what a loving God would do, and
v To absolutely believe in a god – even if he is not loving
For someone who claims to be so well read, why are you having a problem with this? It should be a simple answer.
I did not make noise about research,…
Ummm, do you remember saying this? I have read hundreds of books from all relgious paradigms. I have done scholarly research on many aspects of the Bible, God, religion, etc.
Sounds like noise to me.
… in answer to someone who assumed that I have never read the Bible and never read ANY religious works by real scholars but instead got all of my information from publications of the WTBTS,
I didn’t say you had done zero research, just that your reading did not include anyone qualified to comment on theology.
I gave a very brief summary of what I actually have done.
Riiiiight, suuure you did. If someone claims to be a vascular surgeon and can’t locate the brachial artery, I am not going to believe them either.
I am still waiting to read some of your “scholarly research.”
Also waiting to know if your beliefs came from aliens. After all, you said: …I have my own spiritual path that did not come from any human or any book. If you are human, it could not have come you. Note the word “ANY.”
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The reason for suffering may be inscrutable but that does not mean it is gratuitous. Frankly, if God were indeed doing "nothing" this world would be in far worse shape than it is. And there would be far more suffering. To catagorically state that God is doing nothing or that there is no higher reason for something one would have to be God. Again, limiting a transcnending God to the here and now only hinders ones' ability to understand.